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Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49379 is a reply to message #49333 ] Tue, 09 June 2009 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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talk to Ken F. he is interested in getting a Yaris, and already has nice plans for it. Autox, only not too hard core.


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Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49401 is a reply to message #49356 ] Wed, 10 June 2009 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What many people dont realize is that they were/are widely raced in cup series globally, driven as rally cars and in Japan and Europe there are very fast (well relatively speaking) cars built on this platform. If you really look at the Yaris, Toyota did a great job of keeping weight low and the cars are very light. Perfect componenets of an AX car. I will admit they are just a little top heavy but not as much as visual cues might indicate.

My Echo which was built on same platform as first gen Yaris and it was amazingly quick in AX events. People used to laugh at it until they saw it go. What they didnt realize is that it had full on race suspension with Koni adjutable inserts, sport springs, suspension reinforcements, camber plates, huge 26 mm rear bar. The car given 85 WHP was suprizingly fast. I finished within couple seconds of TTOD at a couple PCA events on street tires in that car. I actually worked with Koni to bring first set of Yaris Koni's to US to be test fitted on an Echo back in 2001.

I'm thinking something along lines of the yaris below. The cars spring to life when you drop them and put some tire under the fenders.

http://images.superstreetonline.com/images/130_0803_16_z+body_kit_guide+ings_1_yaris.jpg
Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49461 is a reply to message #49333 ] Thu, 11 June 2009 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i think the car has potential. although i absolutely HATE the stock front bumper/grill. the part that holds the toyota logo makes it look like a beluga whale. but change that, and it has something about it.


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Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49464 is a reply to message #49401 ] Thu, 11 June 2009 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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grantsfo wrote on Wed, 10 June 2009 11:00

What many people dont realize is that they were/are widely raced in cup series globally, driven as rally cars and in Japan and Europe there are very fast (well relatively speaking) ......

Same could be said about Citroen 2CVs

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2535/skd2cv24hrsmond91lrdg4.jpg

sorry, you dont get a break Razz

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Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49467 is a reply to message #49464 ] Thu, 11 June 2009 07:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Laughing


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Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49491 is a reply to message #49343 ] Thu, 11 June 2009 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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vietnameeh wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 15:51

grantsfo wrote on Tue, 09 June 2009 14:52

I'll just have to build a sleeper Yaris like my Toyota Echo and run appropriate class. I'll skip the lousy TRD parts and get the good stuff.



FSP!! it sounds like a fsp build




FSP is going to getting to be a real tough class! I remember when it was Steve K. in his bimmer all by himself!


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Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49496 is a reply to message #49333 ] Thu, 11 June 2009 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, but having a Boxster (albeit track prepped) and then spending time/money on improving a Yaris for autox borders on lunacy.

Even if you put alot of parts on it and it does respectively well for the bargain basement people mover it is, it will still be dismally slow compared to the Boxster.

You just like the underdog angle, don't you? Grin

-Andy
Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49500 is a reply to message #49496 ] Thu, 11 June 2009 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ooh... that sounds like a challenge. I figure the Yaris could still be a fun commuter car, if you don't go too silly with mods.


Jim
Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49515 is a reply to message #49333 ] Thu, 11 June 2009 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This has to be a trolling attempt...no car enthusiast would describe a Yaris as "fun to drive". Rolling Eyes


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Re: If rear swaybar and sport springs are manufacturers option is car stock? [message #49517 is a reply to message #49515 ] Thu, 11 June 2009 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Best thing about them is exactly the response this post gets. 95% people wont believe how capable these cars are at speeds under say 80 MPH. I enjoyed driving my modified Echo more than my stock Boxster on mountain roads around my house.

Funniest thing is I had a 2.7 Boxster when I bought my 2001 Echo and did modifications on it. Its sort of a tradition that is developing. I think many people underestimate the capability of the Yaris. It wont be a class winning car but they are a hell of a lot of fun. I have owned nearly 30 sports cars/sedans from Hillman IMPS to Porsche 914's to 240Z to Sentra SEr to Honda CRX Si to Mazda RX2's and I can tell you the Echo/Yaris is a fun car if you get the right suspension and wheel/tire combo under it.

Just a couple vids.

Hilarious 1.3 liter Yaris at Greek Rally championships 1300 cc's with driver and co-driver going up hill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIVBvE-qQm8&feature=chann el_page

1.5 liter Echo/Yaris Cup cars in Canada ...yeehaw!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/46a7e70f-a927-4dbf-a16c-9 9a400a0ca2a.htm

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