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What class should these cars be in? [message #79607] Mon, 30 May 2011 22:05 Go to next message
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What class should 3rd and 4th generation Camaros be in with modified suspension including bigger sway bars running on street tires?

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Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79608 is a reply to message #79607] Mon, 30 May 2011 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ESP?

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Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79609 is a reply to message #79608] Mon, 30 May 2011 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sounds stu legal

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Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79610 is a reply to message #79609] Mon, 30 May 2011 22:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Define, what, EXACTLY, was done.

In other words, likely it is an SM, ESP or STU legal car...but I've learned not to assume Wink . Lots of seemingly innocent things that you can do that bump it beyond those classes (i.e. to CP or more).



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Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79617 is a reply to message #79610] Tue, 31 May 2011 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This question is for my buddy Larry who you have seen driving his red IROC convertible and red 98 hardtop. He has 9" rear ends and full roll cages in both along with Spohn suspension upgrades underneath. The engines have been lightly modified and are both normally aspirated and both cars are smog and street legal drivers. I guess I need to find some documentation on the classes, I know I was told to run SM and am getting killed out there while having lots of fun! Smile

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Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79618 is a reply to message #79617] Tue, 31 May 2011 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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9" rear end = minimum of SM. And that is only if it uses the stock suspension pick-up points. If not, then it is a CP car.

Similarly, DEFINE "Spohn suspension upgrades". Just bolt in suspension parts (fine for SM), OR a front K-member swap? If the latter, then on to CP (not SM eligible).

Like I said, DEFINE EXACTLY what was done. You're close but not there yet Wink


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Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79625 is a reply to message #79618] Tue, 31 May 2011 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like OSP to me...

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Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79630 is a reply to message #79625] Tue, 31 May 2011 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And he's on street tires, so T2-OSP is one class that he is
definitely allowed in, and will do better there, than against
anyone running SM/CP/OSP
Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79635 is a reply to message #79630] Tue, 31 May 2011 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But keep in mind in an indexed class like T2, it is WELL worth your while to figure out what the car is legal for. As in, if it is SM-legal (which it might be) it gets a softer index running T2-SM than running T2-OSP.



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Re: What class should these cars be in? [message #79656 is a reply to message #79617] Wed, 01 June 2011 07:37 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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SilverSport wrote on Tue, 31 May 2011 06:38
The engines have been lightly modified and are both normally aspirated


If there are any internal engine mod's, you are not in the ESP class.

Ben


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