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Re: Vallejo Grand Prix from the 80's [message #85380 is a reply to message #84333] Thu, 17 November 2011 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
grantsfo is currently offline  grantsfo   United States
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mwood wrote on Thu, 13 October 2011 21:17
There were actually a good number of 914/6's sold in the Bay Area. Carlson, down in Palo Alto, moved lots of Porsches back then...I remember, because my dad bought a 911S from them in '72 and there were a number of left over '71 914/6's on the lot...yep, even at age 8, I noticed that stuff.

The 914/6 was destined for failure, however. The motor was the carbureted 2.2L from the 911T, so it wasn't exactly fast...I'm thiking like 110bhp...and it was pretty expensive for a car that was just as much Volkswagen as it was Porsche. Not a good combo.

They are much cooler now than they were "back in the day", I'd say...particularly with GT flares and a 3.6L motor Very Happy


being the baautox 914 historian I have couple of corrections. The 914/6 had a 2.0 liter 6 from 69 911 T. It was a lightweight 6 well suited for the 914. And it was a glorious car back then just couldn't face poor marketing and stigma of VW partnership in it's design. Even though it ran 911 engine, suspension and tranny, hubs, brakes. I don't think there is anything sweeter than a small displacement six with triple webers sitting right behind drivers seat. There were tons of 914/6 race cars back in the 70s and 80s with hot 2.7 and 2.8 liter motors used in many hot rod versions. Back in the day they were just as cool if not cooler in my opinion and they were running all 911 race gear. 914s don't take well to big heavy motors like 3.6. My little 1700 lb 2.5 twin plug 6 hung in with much bigger 3.2 and 3.6 liter cars as I had a weight advantage. To put hp in these cars you have to reinforce, use more stout 915 tranny, bigger brakes,etc. Mobsters to stay lightweight with less hp. We had 914/6s in California back in the 70s and 80s with GT flares and big 2.7 race motors at autocross events all the time. But everyone knows the lightweight vw type 4 cars like Dwight Mitchells were fastest at ax back in the 70s. To this day 914s hold honors as TTOD at Porsche parade ax every year.

Little bit of 914/6 race history. 914/6 GT won it's class in Lemans 1970 and placed 6th overall. 914/6 won first IMSA series race in 1971 with Peter Gregg and Hurley Haywood at the wheel.

Yeah back in the "day" they were pretty boring. Lol! This was my favorite 914 back in the day. 1976

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads11/Altec+Lancing+9141196613950.jpg

Take a ride in a boring 1970 2.0 liter 914/6 GT car. This one has been restored to 1970 specs. You will see why it won Lemans in under 2.0 GT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7O8ePZH5is&feature=youtu be_gdata_player

I'm sort of a 914 nut as I get a tear in my eye when I watch that video.

Grant 914 rant over.



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Re: Vallejo Grand Prix from the 80's [message #85384 is a reply to message #85380] Thu, 17 November 2011 21:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pat Kelly is currently offline  Pat Kelly   United States
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Thanks, Grant. There are few cars that have that six sound! Good show!
--Pat K
Re: Vallejo Grand Prix from the 80's [message #85417 is a reply to message #85384] Sat, 19 November 2011 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That was great stuff. Really nicely shot. I especially liked the C2 Vette that made the cones quiver in fear at about 37 seconds into the first video. Both these videos were really entertaining.

- Jordan Kamen

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Re: Vallejo Grand Prix from the 80's [message #85426 is a reply to message #85417] Sat, 19 November 2011 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, I didn't say that the 914/6 was boring...just a commercial failure...way too expensive, "VW-Porsche" (as labeled in all non-US market), not fast enough (stock) and styling that was, at best, inoffensive.

Having said that, I do think they're kind of intriguing and they certainly have a solid following in the collector car world. I also would put an FIA GT in my top ten list of cars I'd like to vintage race...they're cool Smile

http://www.meaneyracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/914gt6pa.jpg





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Re: Vallejo Grand Prix from the 80's [message #85436 is a reply to message #85426] Sat, 19 November 2011 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Grant. That sound was awesome and to observe how well this driver cared for the equipment... breathtaking as he snicked through the gears without any drama. Aside from those pesky Cortina backmarkers, this was a great ridealong! Nicely sorted car.

Jim
Re: Vallejo Grand Prix from the 80's [message #92707 is a reply to message #85436] Fri, 06 July 2012 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great thread. I, too, missed a lot of the "history" of local autocross. We just need to write some new chapters Wink
Mark


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Re: Vallejo Grand Prix from the 80s [message #114100 is a reply to message #51325] Wed, 25 February 2015 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Footnotes on the Vallejo GP: The motivator of the Vallejo GP was the late Jack McDonald, a prominent Vallejo citizen. He owned several rental units in the city and operated a used car business. Jack's long-term goal was a Trans-Am race through the city streets, similar to the one in Southern California. Budweiser, amazingly enough, was a sponsor. The crowd pressure got so high the organizer would run three cars and then stop so spectators could then cross the street. The affair was replaced by a street market.--John Kelly
Re: Vallejo Grand Prix from the 80s [message #121133 is a reply to message #57096] Mon, 16 October 2017 19:03 Go to previous message
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