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Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108194 is a reply to message #108192] Sat, 22 March 2014 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
segfault is currently offline  segfault   
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Scorer just makes sure that the right car finishes, hits the reset-the-finish switch, and queues people if the car queuer missed someone. Cone counter already has its own interface controlled by someone else. Those shitty axware style days are gone.

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Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108195 is a reply to message #108194] Sat, 22 March 2014 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joe Weinstein is currently offline  Joe Weinstein   
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cool. That means the cone counter has to have their reading glasses then, right?
Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108197 is a reply to message #108195] Sun, 23 March 2014 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
benny_ng is currently offline  benny_ng   United States
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I think John K made a point about lines being inboard about a year ago. I thought it had passed. It wouldn't surprise me if that never made it to the supps.



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Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108198 is a reply to message #108197] Sun, 23 March 2014 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan Pellow is currently offline  Dan Pellow   
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Ok Then. Can we put this issue to rest and have the SC make a formal announcement as to their preference/ruling? Thumb Up


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Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108291 is a reply to message #108198] Mon, 31 March 2014 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
benny_ng is currently offline  benny_ng   United States
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Just FWIW...

I just read the rules for the Pro and the Tour...

It states specifically: "If lining is used, the lines must be on the outside of cones."


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Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108299 is a reply to message #108291] Mon, 31 March 2014 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John Kelly Jr. is currently offline  John Kelly Jr.   United States
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My humble thoughts on course lining: Lining a course outside of the pylon means everybody must walk the course to assure nobody gets lost at the event. As an organizer it has always been my goal to assure nobody gets lost, especially first timers. This helps guarantee first timers have a good time at their first event and returns for the next one. It's good business. Our friends on the eastern seaboard generally write the rules and come at this problem from their "gymkhana" point of view. Our western courses tend to be quicker. There's no right or wrong in the situation.
--John Kelly

Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108304 is a reply to message #108299] Mon, 31 March 2014 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
red5racing is currently offline  red5racing   United States
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Maybe it's just me, but my eyes just don't see the white chalk when I'm driving - after a run I couldn't tell if there was chalk or not. AAS's idea of using bright green cones - "just aim for the next green cone" or UFO's tunnel-of-cones seem like better ways to acheve the same goal of a rookie never getting lost.
Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108309 is a reply to message #108304] Mon, 31 March 2014 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
atcovan is currently offline  atcovan   United States
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Tunnel of cones is fine, except 1) too many to hit and course workers get annoyed 2) no one likes a goat trail.
PS goat trail unavoidable if the surface turns to sand and gravel and makes one "line." Smile


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Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108313 is a reply to message #108309] Mon, 31 March 2014 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charlie Davis is currently offline  Charlie Davis   United States
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Here's my own personal reasoning for lining on the outside. If you line on the inside, the line will be 1/2 the width of the liner to the inside of the cones, unless you set up all the cones and have 3 workers line the course (one to knock them out of the way so the line can go right next to the base of the cones, the liner, and one to put them back when the liner has gone by. This is just not going to happen at most events. So, on the outside at corner entry, somewhere around the apex and again on the outside at the exit the lines will be gone very early in the day as we drive over them. Lines between elements will be gone as we swing wide to get entry into the next corner. Lines on the outside of the cones will stay intact for the whole day. Lines on the outside between elements can arc out so they are more intact as well.

Visibility had better not be an issue. Anyone who can see them on the inside, but can't see them two or three feet farther away is too blind to autocross.

"Lines on the edge of the road and rocks on the shoulder" is some reference to something that has nothing to do with what we are doing...


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Re: SCCA Round 4 [message #108316 is a reply to message #108313] Mon, 31 March 2014 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I'm not really too concerned with what SFR does, or doesn't, do re: lines. But, it seems to make sense, if we want to have a region that can compete at National level events, that we simply follow the same rules as National level events, when reasonable (i.e. no, we can't do audit sheets, impound etc) Wink






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